WoW Forever Rogue Talent Calculator
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- 0Assassination
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Beta cap 20 A beta character has 11 of 51 talent points today: the cap is level 20, and a point lands at every level from 10. The other 40 are at launch.
Assassination
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HumanPerception · Will to Survive · Sword Specialization · The Human Spirit -
DwarfFind Treasure · Stoneform · Big Game Hunter · Mace Specialization -
Night ElfElune's Light · Shadowmeld · Quickness · Wisp Spirit -
GnomeEscape Artist · Eureka! · Engineering Specialization · Expansive Mind -
High Order SkyborneRead Ley Line · Walk on Air · Elemental Insight · Wind Blessed -
OrcBlood Fury · Shatter Curse · Axe Specialization · Hardiness -
UndeadCannibalize · Will of the Forsaken · Touch of the Grave · Underwater Breathing -
TrollBerserking · Rapid Regeneration · Beast Slaying · Regeneration -
Windshaper SkyborneSkysight · Walk on Air · Elemental Insight · Wind Blessed
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PerceptionActive
Dramatically increases stealth detection for 20 sec.
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Will to SurviveActiveNew in Forever
Instantly removes all Stun effects.
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Sword SpecializationPassiveChanged in Forever
Increases your critical strike chance with all spells and attacks by 2% while you have a sword or two-handed sword equipped.
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The Human SpiritPassive
Spirit increased by 5%.
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Find TreasureActive
Allows the dwarf to sense nearby treasure, making it appear on the minimap. Lasts until cancelled.
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StoneformActiveChanged in Forever
Instantly removes and grants immunity to all Bleed, Poison, and Disease effects, and reduces all Physical damage taken by 10% for 8 sec.
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Big Game HunterPassiveNew in Forever
Damage dealt versus Beasts increased by 5%.
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Mace SpecializationPassiveNew in Forever
Increases your critical strike chance with all spells and attacks by 1% while you have a mace or two-handed mace equipped.
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Elune's LightActiveNew in Forever
Increases your critical strike chance with all spells and attacks by 10% for 15 sec.
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ShadowmeldActiveChanged in Forever
Activate to slip into the shadows, reducing the chance for enemies to detect your presence. Lasts until cancelled or upon moving. Using this ability in combat discourages enemies from attacking you, but increases the cooldown to 2 min.
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QuicknessPassiveChanged in Forever
Dodge chance increased by 1% and movement speed increased by 2%. Night Elf Rogues and Druids are harder to detect in Stealth as if they were 1 level higher.
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Wisp SpiritPassiveChanged in Forever
Transform into a wisp upon death, increasing movement speed by 75%.
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Escape ArtistActive
Instantly escape the effects of any movement impairing effect and gain immunity to those effects for 3 sec.
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Eureka!ActiveNew in Forever
Your next 3 damaging abilities have their Energy cost reduced by 10% and deal 10% more damage.
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Engineering SpecializationPassiveChanged in Forever
Your gnomish ingenuity reduces the rate of engineering devices failing or backfiring when you use them by 20%.
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Expansive MindPassiveNew in Forever
Maximum Energy increased by 5%.
Read Ley Line.Attempt to tap into the power of a nearby ley line, increasing your Health and Mana regeneration by 100%. Lasts 15 sec if no ley line is nearby, and 15 min if one is found.
Skysight.Attempt to draw power from a convergence of elements and receive its blessing, increasing your movement and mounted movement speeds by 10%. Lasts 30 sec if no elemental convergence is nearby, and 15 min if one is found.
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Read Ley LineActiveNew in Forever
Attempt to tap into the power of a nearby ley line, increasing your Health and Mana regeneration by 100%. Lasts 15 sec if no ley line is nearby, and 15 min if one is found.
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Walk on AirActiveNew in Forever
Glide downward through the air for 10 sec while controlling your direction of travel.
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Elemental InsightPassiveNew in Forever
Damage dealt versus Elementals increased by 5%.
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Wind BlessedPassiveNew in Forever
Increases your spellcasting, melee, and ranged Haste by 1%.
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Blood FuryActiveChanged in Forever
Increases Attack Power and Spell Power by 10% for 15 sec.
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Shatter CurseActiveNew in Forever
Instantly removes and grants immunity to all Curses and Banes, and reduces all Magical damage taken by 15% for 8 sec.
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Axe SpecializationPassiveChanged in Forever
Increases your critical strike chance with all spells and abilities by 1% while you have an axe or a two-handed axe equipped.
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HardinessPassiveChanged in Forever
Duration of Stun effects on you reduced by 20%.
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CannibalizeActiveChanged in Forever
When activated, regenerates 7% of total Health and 7% of total Mana every 2 sec for 10 sec. Only works on Humanoid or Undead corpses within 5 yds. Any movement, action, or damage taken while Cannibalizing will cancel the effect.
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Will of the ForsakenActive
Instantly removes all Charm, Fear and Sleep effects.
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Touch of the GravePassiveNew in Forever
Your spells and attacks have a 5% chance to drain Health from the target, up to 5% of your maximum Health.
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Underwater BreathingPassive
Underwater breath lasts 300% longer than normal.
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BerserkingActive
Coming soon Effect. The build has no description for this one yet.
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Rapid RegenerationActiveNew in Forever
Regenerate 50% of your maximum Health over 6 sec. Any movement, action, or damage taken will cancel the effect.
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Beast SlayingPassive
Damage dealt versus Beasts increased by 5%.
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RegenerationPassiveChanged in Forever
Health regeneration rate increased by 10%. In addition, 10% of total Health regeneration will continue during combat.
Skysight.Attempt to draw power from a convergence of elements and receive its blessing, increasing your movement and mounted movement speeds by 10%. Lasts 30 sec if no elemental convergence is nearby, and 15 min if one is found.
Read Ley Line.Attempt to tap into the power of a nearby ley line, increasing your Health and Mana regeneration by 100%. Lasts 15 sec if no ley line is nearby, and 15 min if one is found.
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SkysightActiveNew in Forever
Attempt to draw power from a convergence of elements and receive its blessing, increasing your movement and mounted movement speeds by 10%. Lasts 30 sec if no elemental convergence is nearby, and 15 min if one is found.
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Walk on AirActiveNew in Forever
Glide downward through the air for 10 sec while controlling your direction of travel.
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Elemental InsightPassiveNew in Forever
Damage dealt versus Elementals increased by 5%.
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Wind BlessedPassiveNew in Forever
Increases your spellcasting, melee, and ranged Haste by 1%.
Tap a talent to add a point, and again for the next rank. To take one back: press and hold it, or tap it and use Take a point back.
Leveling order
- Click talents. The first point lands at level 10.
Pick rates
Share of finished Rogue builds that take each talent. Green from 60%, grey under 15%.
From 135 of 1,142 finished community builds gathered before launch and 15 made on this site, 13 Sept 2026 to 24 Sept 2026
Click adds a point, right-click or Shift-click removes one. Keyboard: arrow keys move between talents, Enter or Space adds, Backspace or Delete removes, 1 to 5 preview a rank. The link keeps the build and the order you picked it in.
No longer talents
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Improved Backstab Classic Combat · row 2 · 3 ranks Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab ability by 10%. -
Dagger Specialization Classic Combat · row 4 · 5 ranks Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Daggers by 1%. -
Mace Specialization Classic Combat · row 5 · 5 ranks Increases your skill with Maces by 1, and gives you a 1% chance to stun your target for 3 sec with a mace. -
Fist Weapon Specialization Classic Combat · row 5 · 5 ranks Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Fist Weapons by 1%. -
Sleight of Hand Classic Subtlety · row 2 · 2 ranks Reduces the chance you are critically hit by melee and ranged attacks by 1% and increases the threat reduction of your Feint ability by 10%. -
Improved Sap Classic Subtlety · row 4 · 3 ranks Gives you a 30% chance to return to stealth mode after using your Sap ability. -
Deadliness Classic Subtlety · row 6 · 5 ranks Increases your Attack Power by 2%.
Talents: what we know
3 of 5 answered All of them →The questions players ask about talents. A question nobody has answered stays on this list with the date we last looked, because "not known yet" is an answer and a guess is not.
How many talent points are there, and from what level?
51 points, one for each level 10 to 60. The first point is level 10.
From the beta build Talent trees overview
How many points can I actually spend in the beta today?
11. The beta caps characters at level 20 since 17 September 2026, and one point arrives per level from level 10. The calculator still draws all 51, because that is what the build holds.
Blizzard: The World of Warcraft: Forever Beta Now Live From the beta build
Are Legacy points the same as talent points?
No. They are two currencies. Talent points are per character and there are 51 of them; Legacy points are earned once on the account and spent per character, with their own cap and their own three trees.
From the beta build Legacy SystemLegacy calculator
What does a respec cost, and where do I do it?
Not known yet. 2 class trainers have been visited in the beta so far and 5 prices written down from those. None of those was a price to unlearn talents. Last looked 24 September 2026.
Blizzard has not said, and we have not seen it in game yet.
Is dual spec in? What does it cost, and at what level?
Not known yet. Players have asked for it on the official forums and there has been no reply; nothing in the build answers the cost or the level either. Last looked 24 September 2026.
Blizzard has not said, and we have not seen it in game yet.The open questions
2 of these 5 have no answer today. When one gets one, it moves up here with its source and the change is listed on the changelog.
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